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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:34 pm 
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Legit?
http://game.playwares.com/xe/?document_srl=21660775


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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:30 pm 
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Possibly. They do look very idTech5-ish. One part of me hopes so as they look stunning but another part of me hopes not because there are way too many "chest high walls" which tend to indicate a slower, cover-based gameplay style, which is not Doom.

Edit: If not Doom 4, maybe it's MachineGames new title.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:07 pm 
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Probably not machine games, you can see assets from rage in many shots. It could be rage dlc. The shot of the government building with the rift from the sky and bats flying around is the only shot with doom like elements.
Also, the shots of the production meeting at id had a pillar of flame as well.

http://i.imgur.com/la1eL.png
http://i.imgur.com/tp3Oq.jpg

One of those images is named 'before_hellwave'. Another is NYC_old- another shot had a decidedly chinatown feel to it.


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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:24 pm 
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Those are the screens from Thao Le's Portfolio,one of the enviroment artist at id which was posted last month and then removed afterward from the following link:
http://www.thaoarts.com/game-hires-models/
http://www.thaoarts.com/game-environments/

Edit:It seems like his whole site is dead now.


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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:33 pm 
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Hope not. Looks like RAGE. Doesn't feel like Doom.


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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:50 am 
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More:
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/the-leake ... -identity/

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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:58 am 
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Wow, that's really nice leak or idsoft finally decide to fix communication with community.

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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
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These can't be Doom 4 screenshots... I mean, they'd better not be - Doom is a franchise set in the future, there's a base on Mars where the whole invasion started and while Doom 2 took place on Earth, it obviously wasn't present-day Earth.

Those pictures appear to be from Half-life remake, contemporary Earth being invaded by creatures from Xen. That's not Doom's setting.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:00 pm 
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One site says those shots are leaked because D4 is canceled and the XBox 360 magazine leaked them.

Speakerpankratz wrote:
These can't be Doom 4 screenshots... I mean, they'd better not be - Doom is a franchise set in the future, there's a base on Mars where the whole invasion started and while Doom 2 took place on Earth, it obviously wasn't present-day Earth.
Those pictures appear to be from Half-life remake, contemporary Earth being invaded by creatures from Xen. That's not Doom's setting.


In case you didn't notice, most of NYC & DC today is nothing but building built 50+ years ago, I'd imagine that everything isn't leveled and "future" stuff built in it's place. :D

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Speakerpankratz wrote:
These can't be Doom 4 screenshots... I mean, they'd better not be - Doom is a franchise set in the future, there's a base on Mars where the whole invasion started and while Doom 2 took place on Earth, it obviously wasn't present-day Earth.

Those pictures appear to be from Half-life remake, contemporary Earth being invaded by creatures from Xen. That's not Doom's setting.


I intend to buy myself a whole lot of beer and popcorn next months, so I can thoroughly enjoy the....

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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:15 pm 
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The Happy Friar wrote:
In case you didn't notice, most of NYC & DC today is nothing but building built 50+ years ago, I'd imagine that everything isn't leveled and "future" stuff built in it's place. :D


Good point, but when I look at screenshots like these ones:
http://game.playwares.com/xe/files/atta ... 8ecb13.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PdK3z.jpg
I keep wondering how they managed to build a base on Phobos in Doom/Mars in Doom 3, not to mention an entire space fleet. Doom 3 showed us they have access to space ships like this one:
http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/16 ... tarOne.jpg
How is that possible? It doesn't make sense.
It really is jarring, it feels like Doom 4 will be a complete reboot of the series, this time set in present day. I don't like it at all.

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Come on, I'm not raging. :) I'm just not getting any Doom vibes from these screenshots and I think you share my point of view to an extent.


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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:41 pm 
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Speakerpankratz wrote:
[...]I'm just not getting any Doom vibes from these screenshots and I think you share my point of view to an extent.


I completely agree. I am rather disappointed by the direction they appear to be going. Not only in the environment, but in the characters which look like they belong is a RAGE-like game.

I think they could of made a far more interesting environment. Maybe more of a high-tech and low-tech hybrid.


It's not that any of the picture's content looks bad, cause it looks good, just not Doom-like. And I like Speakerpankratz said, it's really jarring to go from a super-high-tech research base on Mars, to a old looking city with modern tech.




Oh, and this picture really reminds me of HL2. lol


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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:42 pm 
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I see a lot of assets from rage (skybox seems the same or some broken cars standing around, some texture work etc.) or even doom3 (the rotating red "hell sky").
judging from the first look it reminds me more of an addon for rage than a new doom.


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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:47 pm 
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Gary wrote:
Speakerpankratz wrote:

It's not that any of the picture's content looks bad, cause it looks good, just not Doom-like. And I like Speakerpankratz said, it's really jarring to go from a super-high-tech research base on Mars, to a old looking city with modern tech.

maybe it is some kind of prequel set in current time. I hope it's not going from "sci-fi doom" to some "modern-military-shoot-some-demons-with-m16-and-get-back-to-cover" game. but thats just pure speculation :D


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drill_sarge wrote:
maybe it is some kind of prequel set in current time.


Prequel? I suppose that's possible... though isn't Doom3 like a prequel? Or is D3 more of a reboot?

And really, I think we have enough modern shooters for now... I prefer futuristic shooters, cause then you can have some new made up weaponry(today's rifles and stuff are so... similar in both appearance and function).



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[...]"modern-military-shoot-some-demons-with-m16-and-get-back-to-cover" game. but thats just pure speculation :D


Yes. But now the demons can't retain physical form, so they instead they took over the bodies of Russian soldiers. And the player gets some new prototype self-replenishing body armor.


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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:58 pm 
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Here's a pack containing all of the leaked images. Going through them I'd have to say that they are most likely from Doom 4 and that id have no fucking clue what they're doing anymore. The art is fantastic, no question, but it looks like every other game out there. The characters, the weapons, the "modern" environments... And because there's so many npc's being showcased, I can't help but feel that there's going to be a lot of boring exposition and pointless dialog to sit through instead of killing fucking demons.


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Speakerpankratz wrote:
I keep wondering how they managed to build a base on Phobos in Doom/Mars in Doom 3, not to mention an entire space fleet.


UAC had access to that ship, nothing saying a country/govt had access to those kind of things. Look at the Alien movies, They have interstellar ships, high tech space stations, etc. but I'm betting on earth it's still brick-and-mortar-and-steel. Why? Because it works. In space (and hostile environments) you need different tech to live. People lived in tent-like structures for a long time because it worked. Can't use those in space. Right now there's a space station in orbit and vehicles to get there & back but my house is made of wood and drywall.

An editor for gameinformer confirmed on his twitter account D4 isn't canceled but made no comment in the pic's.

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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:44 pm 
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Sikkpin wrote:
Here's a pack containing all of the leaked images.

thx.

that Holmes guy (holmes.jpg) looks like gene hackman :O X-D

edit: and Villa (?; villa.jpg) Danny Trejo anyone? :D


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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
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I shit on these screenshots. ID, If you need a designer, call me and I'll teach you how to do a proper Doom game. Its not that hard.


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 Post subject: Re: possible screens
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:48 pm 
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Welcome to January.
We already saw these and had the same discussion on dw 1½ month ago or so. I can't believe it took so long for the rest of the world to discover this :P
Anyway. Some of these shots are most likely from Doom4 while others are unused RAGE or RAGE DLC.

I actually don't mind the city stuff we see here.

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